2007 ACT Series Draft Regulations - Brindabella Motor Sport Club

Matt · 16-01-2007, 05:46 PM

Here is a link to the DRAFT 2007 Total Traction Services ACT Regional Rally Series.

Constructive comments are welcome.

TKM · 16-01-2007, 06:31 PM

Thanks Matt.

Constructive comments welcome, but unless there are any major grievances, the Regs will be made final in the next few days. 2006 registered competitors need to check their email (those that we had addresses for anyway).

One thing you might note is that the Teams have been dropped due to the lack of interest over the last two years. Thanks goes out to Stilling Enterprises and Willett Constructions for their support in trying to motivate people towards this over the last couple of years.

Cheers,
Mark

Miss · 16-01-2007, 08:02 PM

Just a small error I noticed... reference is given to "Clause 11" for the Official Address, and it's Clause 10.

Looks like Oberon will have a surplus of official's again

Kate · 16-01-2007, 10:21 PM

Sorry to be daft but every time I think I get it I find an arguement against it - can some one explain how the seeding list works?

Kate · 16-01-2007, 10:36 PM

Just looking at the dates - Narooma is down for a friday and BB is down for a sunday???

Bogan · 17-01-2007, 12:21 AM

"(f) In the event of a tied point score at the conclusion of the series, the tied competitors scores will be compared after dropping their best scoring round and the higher resulting score shall be deemed to take the higher placing. Should a tie still occur then the process will be repeated and so on until the tie is broken. If the tie cannot be broken by the above method then the competitors will be awarded equal placing."

There was some debate about this recently, and I think it's the dumb way to do it, it doesn't reward wins. Look at number of wins, number of second places etc.

Just my opinion (again).

T.

tortfeaser · 17-01-2007, 01:12 AM

I'm with Tony. Swap it around such that lowest score dropped. Or go to stage wins.

Trevor Stilling · 17-01-2007, 03:14 AM

Agreed , there needs to be more reward for wins ....

erk · 17-01-2007, 03:42 AM

As a newbie nav, could someone who knows explain the whole "if the driver doesn't register, the registered nav can't score points" thing, please?

TKM · 17-01-2007, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogan

"(f) In the event of a tied point score at the conclusion of the series, the tied competitors scores will be compared after dropping their best scoring round and the higher resulting score shall be deemed to take the higher placing. Should a tie still occur then the process will be repeated and so on until the tie is broken. If the tie cannot be broken by the above method then the competitors will be awarded equal placing."

There was some debate about this recently, and I think it's the dumb way to do it, it doesn't reward wins. Look at number of wins, number of second places etc.

Just my opinion (again).

T.

I don't like it either, but there wasn't enough of a debate or a submission to the committee about it. Doesn't mean that it is dead though. We intend to look at that and other things throughout the year utilising a private forum for series registered competitors only.

TKM · 17-01-2007, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss

Just a small error I noticed... reference is given to "Clause 11" for the Official Address, and it's Clause 10.

Thanks Lizzy, that was an oversight after we deleted the bit on Teams and the sections got renumbered.

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Originally Posted by Miss

Looks like Oberon will have a surplus of official's again

We did look at other possible events, but there's not a lot available. One possibility was Gywn's Sunny Corner event. Maybe we can debate that this year.

TKM · 17-01-2007, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kat33b

Just looking at the dates - Narooma is down for a friday and BB is down for a sunday???

Best mention that to Ian Bigg as we just took the dates from the NSW calendar, didn't bother checking that they were on the correct day of the week.

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Originally Posted by kat33b

Sorry to be daft but every time I think I get it I find an arguement against it - can some one explain how the seeding list works?

We have used the ACT listing from RallyOz.com (Pete Jerie's site). I'm no expert on how it works, but it basically works out your times for an event as a percentage against the winner of the event. For example, JS won Nat Cap, so his coefficient for that event was 100, my times in comparison where 91% of his. The overall seeding I think is an average of your last two events.

I hope that helps, I’m sure Pete can explain it better when he’s back in the country.

TKM · 17-01-2007, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by erk

As a newbie nav, could someone who knows explain the whole "if the driver doesn't register, the registered nav can't score points" thing, please?

That's just the way it's always been, and it's never really be raised as an issue before (as far as I know). Perhaps it's something else that can be debated when we get the private forum up and running.

Miss · 17-01-2007, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TKM

That's just the way it's always been, and it's never really be raised as an issue before (as far as I know). Perhaps it's something else that can be debated when we get the private forum up and running.

Nah it came into being in '01. A nav registered themselves just before the event then jumped in the car of a driver who'd have been Goldcup if he was registered. It was the last round (Nat Cap) and didn't mess with the pointscores but wasn't particularly sporting IMO. That's how that clause came about.

Spac · 17-01-2007, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogan

....it doesn't reward wins.

Correct. It is specifically designed to reward participation and consistancy over flash in the pan performances.
It's an old clause, not a new one, FWIW.

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Originally Posted by erk

As a newbie nav, could someone who knows explain the whole "if the driver doesn't register, the registered nav can't score points" thing, please?

Further to what Lizzy said, it's to ensure that navs are only able to score points they're entitled to.
If you're in with an unregistered driver, it's usually very dificult to work out which category they'd be eligible for, particularly at an event when time and resouces are hard to come by.
So the workable solution was to insist that the driver was series rego'd. In the few cases where this has presented an issue for the nav (ie: unrego'd driver), then the nav can register the driver simply so the nav can score points.