Roadbooks - black line for sealed or unsealed?

[lisalex]

Doesn't seem to be mentioned in the NCRs. They show an example diagram, but I can't seem to find reference to this black line (circled).



Anyway, last two rallies have had the black line in opposite contexts - one to indicate tar, another to indicate unsealed. Which is correct?

Alex.

[Thirsty]

MMM. Black line here in Qld for bitumen. Although we are in the dark ages..
Cheers
Ross

[Factor]

Black line for black Road - and any way its saves on ink in a gravel rally.

[Rallydat]

Lisalex, The Tulip is also drawn wrong. Should be solid black line into a broken line, to designate Bitumen to Gravel.

[lisalex]

Thanks guys.

That image (apart from my crude alterations) is straight out of the current CAMS NCRs. If it's wrong, that's a pretty sad state of affairs..

Alex.

[PeterO]

Originally Posted by Rallydat

Lisalex, The Tulip is also drawn wrong. Should be solid black line into a broken line, to designate Bitumen to Gravel.

The line does actually get thinner. Perhaps it is too short for the breaks in the dashed line to show up? I have had that problem before, and had to have a couple of broken lines put in as dotted rather than dashed, just so the breaks showed up.

Peter

[gslrallysport]

Ordinarily solid black means tarmac. International rallies like WRC and Rally QLD (which didn't, but were supposed to) will use solid black for unsealed... which I personally think is backwards...

So which is actually correct I think depends on what event you're in...

[Mike Cherry]

For me, the narrowing of the line indicates going from a major to a minor road, but in this instance, it would appear that the start point is on bitumen (because the thick black line indicates this), but there is nothing in the instructions to advise this (should possibly say "SO from Control - end bitumen").
The whole instruction is confusing, or at best most unclear as to what it should be.
Maybe you had to be there.
BTW, if this is for a SS event (and presumably it is) shouldn't the M be a clock?
The header box is also incorrect, it has the page no but not the total number of pages, IFAIK, target & maximum times no longer exist and there is no total distance for the section.
Page is obsolete.
Not surprising.

[Carlo]

International road books and any other National road books that I have looked at it is follow the FIA requirement which is that a solid black line indicates an unsealed surface.

[markn]

I can't remember where I saw it or read it, but there is a line of thought that says if there is a change in surface it is represented by a broken line. therefore, from bitumen to gravel or gravel to bitumen the tulip is the same, Solid black line to a broken line.

The line running vertical (the one the red arrow is pointing at) in the past has also represented servicing allowed or dissallowed? (too many brain cells killed over the years!)