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27-02-2010, 03:33 PM
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27-02-2010, 03:46 PM
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oh Magoo, you've done it again!
There is going to be one hell of a mess for the Stewards  Tribunes AMSAC to sort out I suspect... Surely with the patent disparity from differing compound tyres as supplied (and mandated), the round simply cannot count towards the ARC? ... Which then raises the spectre of refunding crews all costs involved (which of course isn't a sporting matter but a straightforward civil legal claim that should be a lay down misère on what is reportedly the circumstances!)
Yikes.. a lawyers dream come true 
David
Last edited by Dave Kelly; 27-02-2010 at 06:14 PM.
Reason: schpelling
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27-02-2010, 04:15 PM
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27-02-2010, 04:20 PM
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POWER STAGE ROAD CLOSURE!!!!
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Round should be wiped from the scores....
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27-02-2010, 04:30 PM
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Awesome. Introduce a rule to make it even, then this happens.
Not to mention the rumours that other teams had done deals with other tyre manufacurers which this rule caused to fall through.
Agreed with the above - EPIC FAIL.
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27-02-2010, 04:49 PM
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There is one good thing about this...
At least this stuff up can't be blamed on Peter Garrett!
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27-02-2010, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbob
Not to mention the rumours that other teams had done deals with other tyre manufacurers which this rule caused to fall through.
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This rule actually cost the ARC two competitors - arguably two of Australia's best!
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27-02-2010, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rally.com.au
Kumho Air Freights New Tarmac Tyres in for Opening Round of the Australian Rally Championship
Monday, 22 February 2010 16:40
Kumho Tyres has air freighted new tarmac rally tyres from its headquarters in Korea in time for the opening round of the Australian Rally Championship in Tasmania this weekend (26 - 28 February).
Kumho has air freighted more than 150 tyres to Australia for the one and only tarmac round on the Championship to ensure that all competitors are using the same type of tyre and compete on a level playing field.
According to Kumho Motor sport coordinator John Mills the company had originally nominated the Kumho V70A tarmac competition tyre for Rally Tasmania however this tyre was not suitable for the new Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X.
“Kumho R&D engineers were not willing to sign off on the V70A for the Evo X as it required a different load rating tyre, so to ensure that every competitor could use the same tyres and be on an equal footing Kumho decided to airfreight enough CO3 tarmac competition tyres for all ARC entrants in Tassie,” said John Mills.
“Potentially the load rating issue with the V70A and the Evo X would have only affected two or three competitors competing in these cars on Rally Tasmania but Kumho’s role as the control tyre supplier is to ensure that everyone has the same rubber,” he added.
“The load rating situation only affected the Evo X and only applies to the V70 A tarmac tyres, the R700, R800 and R900 gravel tyres we will use in the remaining five ARC rounds meet the requirements for all currently homologated cars,” said John Mills.
“We sourced the CO3 tarmac rally tyres from both Korea and the UK to ensure we had sufficient stock and sizes to supply all ARC competitors,” he added.
The Kumho competition tyres for the ARC will be available in a wide range of sizes from 13" all the way up to the 205/65 x 15 at cost effective prices. For example the 205/65R15 tyre will cost any rally competitor from club level to the ARC, just $231 each.
Kumho has committed its backing into the Australian Rally Championship as a whole and is by far the largest commercial commitment to the sport this year.
Drivers who have tested the new rubber have indicated the Kumho control tyres showed excellent performance characteristics.
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ahhh... thankyou Mr Mills (for your comments on behalf of Kumho). That'll be very handy in any upcoming protests and/or litigation!
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27-02-2010, 06:33 PM
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ahhh... thankyou Mr Mills (for your comments on behalf of Kumho). That'll be very handy in any upcoming protests and/or litigation!
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Its bullshyt the tyres weren't adr compliant got f all to do with evo x !!!! EPIC EPIC EPIC FAIL !!!!!!!!!
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Last edited by Ric Cary; 27-02-2010 at 06:36 PM.
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27-02-2010, 07:13 PM
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Control tyres were always a bad idea. Control tyres of differing compounds is simply ridiculous, but that is how it was written. You can also choose the tyre type I believe R700 or R800... so basically if it has Kumho written on the side, and you've purchased them via the rally.com.au website (ARCom tax?), then you are OK.
The point is unless you can buy exactly what you want then it isn't and even playing field. I have no doubt that if Simon Evans and I both put in an order for 16 R800 mediums and they only have 20 left... Simon will get 16 and I'll be stuck with the hards.
It's just another example of the ARC 5hitfight which happens year in and year out.
If they were going to go a control tyre they needed to do it properly. 1 tyre, 1 compound.
As for Tassie the V70A is on the CAMS list of approved production tyres so I don't know why the Kumho 'engineers' felt the need to pull it. You'd assume to get on the CAMS list it would have passed various criteria. With only 13 or so cars I doubt that it would be a supply issue.
It's all a big mess isn't it?
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27-02-2010, 10:03 PM
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Yep - its crap
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27-02-2010, 10:25 PM
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Yep - its crap
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I agree with your comments, but Andrew, did you type that under advisement from your QC......
And I agree with CMD. A shame to see competitors put out of the pinnacle of our sport due to a tyre deal. The talent and pool of competitors is about as deep as the Murray in the lower lakes.
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27-02-2010, 10:36 PM
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27-02-2010, 11:18 PM
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Just sayin'.
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27-02-2010, 11:39 PM
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Surely CAMS, Arcom, Rallycorp,(or even registered competitors) or whoever legally looks after the ARC would have a contract with Kumho regarding the control tyre.
Possibly the performance at the Tassie Round as reported be in breach of said contract, thus rendering it null and void for the rest of the season.
But a long at the right people get their tyres for free what does it matter if potential ARC competitors were unable to compete because of the control tyre?
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