Classic Adelaide

[flat04]

Hi All

This is a message forwarded from the Porsche Club of SA

....

Classic Adelaide Competitors

Steve Hoinville a previous Classic Adelaide competitor is involved in a
group who are interested in resurrecting Classic Adelaide. They are
trying to contact as many past competitors as possible with a view to
canvassing their views so we can tailor a proposal that reflects what
the competitors really want from the event.

Could you please forward this email on to any competitors that you have
contact with and ask them, if they are happy to hear from Steve & his
team, to forward their email addresses (or contact numbers) to Steve at
shoinville@optusnet.com.au or by phone on 0407 898 606.

With enough support, hopefully this great event can run again.

The PCSA committee felt that ALL interested people, eg officials, should
make contact with Steve.

[damian]

email sent - i bought my car specifically to do CA

[blackvr]

Originally Posted by Mk1_Oz

Thanks Trex.

While I have peoples attention (and seeing as this is my thread anyway), I wish to digress a little.....

Interpreting CAMS regs is not easy and getting information about those regs from CAMS is like selling ice to eskimos - IMPOSSIBLE .

I would be very interested to talk to other Mk1 Escort competitors in the past Classic Adelaide events to discuss cars and what they have done to theirs. I have pretty much got everything sorted or decided but would be nice to double check before the cutter comes to play! Anybody know if they are on the forums or which clubs they are members of (I am yet to decide on a club)?

Come around and see me (at Holden Hill) and say gidday. I think I have the runs on the board. The last couple of CA's class winning Escorts were built/tuned by me, and I built and codrove in a BDA Escort that won outright a couple of times.
Cheers Mike

[smee]

Small side bar in todays advertiser.
Made mention that it is looking good for a 2011 date for Classic Adelaide.

[Mk1_Oz]

yes i have also heard around the traps that, as predicted, Octagon is looking to do Targa Adelaide in 2011....woohoooo

Wonder if they will also run Targa Adelaide under AASA (=multi-cam head!!!)

[bbr]

This is the article from 19th August that I was forwarded ....




Financial problems put Classic Adelaide car rally on hold


STUART INNES
From: The Advertiser
August 19, 2010 8:11PM
ADELAIDE'S annual internationally-acclaimed rally for classic cars will not run this year - but strong support exists for it to be resurrected under a new name from next year.

Classic Adelaide Rally was to have run in late November but its promoter, Silverstone Events, ran into financial difficulties. Liquidators were called in to find seven-figure sums so far unaccounted for, including $150,000 in advance entry fees.


Octagon Australia, which runs the Targa Tasmania rally, says it is keen to restart the Adelaide event under the name Targa Adelaide.

Octagon is based in Hobart and runs tarmac car rallies, already having a portfolio of four Targas in Tasmania and Victoria.

"We would bring the Adelaide event back to a prologue plus three days, instead of four days, and have it for only classic cars," Octagon's Targa events director Mark Perry told The Advertiser yesterday. "Allowing modern cars in destroyed the spirit of the event.

"We would prefer August, because November is too hot to be in a car all day."


Mr Perry said it was too late for an event to be run properly in 2010, with the dates now less than three months away.

But he had had "very positive discussions" about next year.


Events SA manager Hitaf Rasheed said the SA Tourism Commission remained committed to motorsport as a tourism drawcard.

"We are keen to see the event delivered. It's great for the state," she said, noting the spending by interstate and international visitors and media exposure of SA regions.

She said Events SA was examining "different options and opportunities" to work with a new promoter.


Alan Scott of liquidators BRI Ferrier said he had sold what assets there were of Silverstone Events but the name Classic Adelaide Rally was separately owned.

He confirmed about $1.5 million was owed to creditors. He had yet to discover what happened to about $150,000 paid in entry fees for this year's event.


The event's clerk of course, Ivar Stanelis, said he had bought the equipment, including timing gear, so it was ready for a new event to proceed.

Mr Stanelis said he, too, was owed money for his work and his contract but there was a "good feeling" among senior officials and the 800 volunteers for the event to continue under a financially-sound new promoter.


SA Motor Sport Board chairman Roger Cook said his organisation stood ready to help. "It's a marvellous event for SA," he said.

"Every effort should be made to keep it."
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[Trex rally]

There was another article in yesterday's Advertiser suggesting that an SA businessman, Terry Little, is well advanced with plans to run the event from next year on. The article said he has the support of the former Clerk of Course, Ivar Stanelis, who bought all the exquipment off the liquidator.
The article quoted Little saying that the event will be open to Classic cars only.

[Victoria]

Sounds like good news.

I haven't been there to see for my self but I have heard that the reason the modern cars won't run is that the roads are too fast and the gaps between the trees too narrow.

Does that sound right or is it more about keeping the powers in council happy.

[damian]

my understanding from what I read in the paper last year was the modern cars ran last year because the organiser wanted more money, as the fields had dropped slightly with the global financial crisis.

[Trex rally]

Originally Posted by Victoria

Sounds like good news.

I haven't been there to see for my self but I have heard that the reason the modern cars won't run is that the roads are too fast and the gaps between the trees too narrow.

Does that sound right or is it more about keeping the powers in council happy.

It wasn't an issue for the Councils or about trees.
Yes there has been concern about how to adhere to the FIA maximum average speed.
Damian is right that modern cars were invited last year to increase numbers but, in order to give the appearance that the event met with the name "Classic Adelaide" and its history, the modern cars were not eligible for outright honours in the event.
The times of the fastest Classic cars last year, such as Glenney and Weeks, were so close to the fastest modern cars that excluding moderns for reason of speed only is no longer a valid argument.
I suspect the reason why the potential new promoters want to limit the event to Classics is because it is those cars which attract the most interest in the community and give the event status for showcasing historic machinery rather than being just another road race.

[flat04]

Originally Posted by Trex rally

I suspect the reason why the potential new promoters want to limit the event to Classics is because it is those cars which attract the most interest in the community and give the event status for showcasing historic machinery rather than being just another road race.

Matt, I must be a strange fella. The car I have been most interested in seeing compete in SA is Kevin Week's Lamborghini Superleggera. It's a shame to think the event might turn back to a Classics only event. I love seeing the F40's, old 911's or what have you but for sheer spectacle the Lambo wins hands down.

I wish there was a way to have the Classics and Moderns compete alongside each other but with the event still being able to maintain its old world charm.

[damian]

myself - I prefer the classics. Every year I go there just to see Ken Mee's Celica. I can hear it from miles away, the Celica exhaust has a distictive sound, and then when it whizzes past I spend the next 20 minutes going "did you see that!? did you hear that!? effen awesome!" and dream about competing in it one day in my own Celica with whomever is silly enough to sit next to me...

But yes, that lambo is pretty mental, but it's so mental he may as well be handed the trophy at the prologue... not complaining tho! tongue firmly in cheek!

[Trex rally]

Originally Posted by flat04

Matt, I must be a strange fella. The car I have been most interested in seeing compete in SA is Kevin Week's Lamborghini Superleggera. It's a shame to think the event might turn back to a Classics only event. I love seeing the F40's, old 911's or what have you but for sheer spectacle the Lambo wins hands down.

I wish there was a way to have the Classics and Moderns compete alongside each other but with the event still being able to maintain its old world charm.

Andrew

Sure that Lambo is a crowd pleaser but I think the problem is a field made up of 80 Evos, Subarus or GTRs. There is a groundswell of community resentment of this event in areas where there are road closures because people think the roads are being closed for a privileged few to hoon about.

Fact is that you and I might be interested in an Evo being driven well, but most of the population isn't and they are even less interested in seeing 70 of them being driven averagely. They probably aren't too interested in old Porsches either.

But they will queue for miles to see and hear an A9X, a VB V8 Commodore, an XB coupe or a BDA Escort. Then the event becomes a spectacle, it gets Govt support and the whingers get nowhere.

I don't know if that is the potential promoter's logic but, if it is, it would be hypocritical for them to allow the Thoroughbred Tour cars to be anything other than Classics too.

[Mike Cherry]

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Originally Posted by Trex rally

But they will queue for miles to see and hear an A9X, a VB V8 Commodore, an XB coupe or a BDA Escort.

Bingo!

[jyj003]

Ran in Classic Adelaide 10 years ago in a BDA escort, and it was a fantastic event. It would be great if it came back but only for the older cars, they attract a different type of competitor and generate interest from a wider community and thus spectators. Interesting to see that Rally Tasmania has come back as "Classic Tasmania" for pre 1986 (I think) cars only, Already has 30 or 40 fully paid up entries for next March. Perhaps I'm just getting old, but older cars are more fun. And thats what it's about.

Gorge Rd in the BDA was awesome, Hopefully theycan run it again
cheers
Ted