Who's In

[Dweller]

Reading the post about rallying's profile got me thinking.
Who would be up for organising a rookie series. Get them all into Excels and the clubman series and give the winner a bucket of cash at the end of the year.
Must have never rallied before newcomers only, if we turned it out now they could be ready for round 1 next year.
I will put in $200.00 for the prize kitty.


Cheers

[Rallyray]

You mean like the ACT Series Novice Championship?

Getting them into excels will limit the people your trying to attract.

Let em run anything I say ( Bar AWDS)

[vkdude]

was thinking the same thing. And what defines rallied? navving? rallysprints? without wanting to start a AMSAG/CAMS war I like the model they use for their rookie series, was going to run it but work clashed with all their dates.

the guy who is buying the Sprinter should have it paid off by then (and maybe even reliable again) and he is looking to do some rallying and I have most things excepting a cage to get the commodore running, was planning to build it over next year but might be able to speed it up with a push and I can now afford to take the occasional weekend off.

and I could probably tip some money in too, maybe even have an small entry fee for the series.

[Crazy Dave]

Originally Posted by Rallyray

Getting them into excels will limit the people your trying to attract.

Let em run anything I say ( Bar AWDS)

And then you don't have an even playing field. If you have a competition that is supposed to recognise the better driver, then you need to take the car factor and money out of it as much as you can. Otherwise, you could say, the rookie series idea is already happening (and not doing excessively well).

[Dweller]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dave

And then you don't have an even playing field. If you have a competition that is supposed to recognise the better driver, then you need to take the car factor and money out of it as much as you can. Otherwise, you could say, the rookie series idea is already happening (and not doing excessively well).

Thats it. The old level playing field. The reason I took the Excels for the example is that there are already quite afew out there so newbies can pick up a going car fairly cheap. They have there own rally forum going so if anyone wants to build a car from scratch the info and guidance is there. the cars are reliable as buggery. there is already series scruitineers for the cheats out there and Ray if we come up with a big enough prize pool they will come, come on where's your 200 skins?

[legend]

I'll put in $100. but only on one condition. that is that after this (fairly worthy) idea gets completely forgotten about and nothing ever comes of it, I get all the money pledged by everyone else.

[Rallyray]

I seriously doubt that the money will entice them.

I won Goldcup for the prestige of it ( Worth **** all atm...) not for the cash. Sure it was a bonus but it wasn't the motivation.

You're probably better off organising excel only events and awarding cash to the best novice for that event?

All I'm saying that I doubt there is enough Excel Novices to make up a series. I'm happy to be corrected though.

[mick]

Well the plans are a foot for the NSW Excel Series rookie award and we already have a sponsor and prize money.

We just need to work out the rules and launch the thing.

Cheers Mick

[JohnnoEH]

What about letting people in who might have done one or two rallies/rallysprints, you might find you won't have enough people that have never run before that would be willing to jump into a series.

But for $$$ issues, I'd jump at the chance to run in a *local* series like this with my Stanza. For first timers/rookies, I don't think car choice would have the hugest effect on it - especially if they are all buying their first rally car. It might encourage a few more people who are stubborn and stupid (like me) that don't think FWD Hyundais sound like much fun to have a go.

I do realise that FWDs are great and much sideways fun can be had, our Yaris is awesome fun on the dirt, I was just making a lighthearted smart arse comment...

[buzzard]

Originally Posted by JohnnoEH

. It might encourage a few more people who are stubborn and stupid (like me) that don't think FWD Hyundais sound like much fun to have a go.

Mr Neal tells me 14 started (Coffs ARC + RMV) and 14 finished. I think this idea has merit.

Chris

[John C]

Well done Mick and Sinclair Hyundai

People who bash excels , usually have not driven one and certainly haven't driven one quickly.

They are the true test of a drivers courage and skill. They allow drivers to test their skill against other drivers , the difference between cars is minimal.

I should know as I am as slow as.

In Victoria we now have 12 to 14 cars competing on a regular basis , they are good fun to drive , reliable, cheap and teach new guys the value of carrying speed through corners. With the super deal by our Series Sponsor on parts (Thank you Hyundai Motor Company of Australia and Mick G) we are without doubt already the best supported entry level / novice class in Australia. Enough of the rave, just stop talking get out there and help motivate people to become involved.

[vkdude]

Originally Posted by Rallyray

I seriously doubt that the money will entice them.

Money wont entice me.
A series like this is ignoring people like me and Johnno who for one reason or another have rally cars but havent done a rally in them yet.

Whilst I admit I am in the process of sellling the Sprinter the new owner is not about to buy an excel an neither am I or Johnno.

Buying a particular car to enter a rookie series doesnt make sense. buying an Excel because you want an Excel and then having an Excel rookie series is different.

I am not anti Excel, I think they are a great car, just not the car for me.

[Mike Cherry]

Showroom.

[Dweller]

Originally Posted by Rallyray

All I'm saying that I doubt there is enough Excel Novices to make up a series. I'm happy to be corrected though.

See here's the thing there are bugger all NOVICES at all, for reasons that have been thrashed about before we are failing to attract NEW people to the sport.
We need to start pinching them from other areas Karting, Motocross etc.
But for that to happen we need them to know that it costs x and they have a very real chance of winning, hence Excels Series, and whats wrong with having them run against seasoned ES competitors and make some of them look over their shoulder.

I didn't know that it was already being looked at Mick, what can we do to help and my 200 stands if it's along the lines of what I'm gibbering about.

Sorry MC I don't think Showroom can offer the same level playing field as those High undies

[Yogi]

This has been tried before, Search For a Rally Star (SFARS), i expressed an interest 3 times when i was starting out, and heard zip. Tristan was looking down that road when he started too. You had to front a couple of grand yourself and go through a mountain of hoops, the prize was worthwhile though.

Ended up buying a car and doing ACT novice. IMHO promote the ACT novice series more, swap out the cash for driviing lessons with Rick or Rallyschool and maybe free entry into Clubman. I didn't look for the cash, it was more about trying to set up a rally career of sorts. there's no guarantee the winner won't blow the cash prize in the pub on a end of season binge.

Canvas schools, Tafe etc. if you want to go Hyundai then maybe they can hand out a couple of converted excels for a 1st and second to do state novice or a clubman series, otherwise it is very limited and you then need to call it an excel series and run under their banner (which could be a good thing) otherwise Ray's on the money.

good ideas though.

cheers
Darren