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24-08-2010, 12:59 PM
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2009 Repco Rally Australia Report released to NSW Parliment
Homebush Motor Racing Authority - Publications
The Homebush Motor Racing Authority has released their report into last years event and found no problems or issues with it continuing for 2011. - It generated between $14million to $16.9million for the Northern Rivers area of NSW and about $13million for NSW as a whole.
- Had some 86,000 people attended, 2,145 from overseas, 12,388 from interstate.
- Does not include ticketless people on friends properties around the rally route.
- Had little environmental impact and created no obvious increase of hooning or traffic offences.
My favourite bit has to be the pie chart comparing the amount of anti-rally protesters with the population in the Tweed & Kyogle LGA. 300 active protesters compared to over 88,000 residents. However if you took out the protest members who live in Lismore and Byron LGA, that slice should look even more thinner.
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24-08-2010, 02:50 PM
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Interestingly, an investigation by the police indicated there was no evidence of rock throwing at the cars. I thought there were two cars with smashed windows? (page 7)
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24-08-2010, 03:07 PM
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Interestingly, an investigation by the police indicated there was no evidence of rock throwing at the cars. I thought there were two cars with smashed windows? (page 7)
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pretty sure there were pics posted on this forum
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24-08-2010, 03:28 PM
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nterestingly, an investigation by the police indicated there was no evidence of rock throwing at the cars. I thought there were two cars with smashed windows? (page 7)
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The police, come on we all know they were busy down at the Wiangaree train tracks integrating people like me after crossing (illegally) the freight train tracks. But seriously, they didn't record it on video so it never happened.. Problem with the legal system is you need money or video evidence to prove anything. Could of been a rock falling from space, or anything. Just like the logs and boulders that ended up on the roadway, could of been a coincidence.
The media incorrectly reported the facts (a first I'm sure), and protesters jumped at the opportunity to claim the rock throwing was made up. Of course they did not mention any of the logs or rocks rolled onto the roadway.
Read the press release and draw your own conclusions Rally Australia – September 8-11 2011 News Rally Australia Organisers Set Out Circumstances Of Stage Cancellation
The stage was canned for a reason, and the rock throwing was just the media's bungle, which conveniently gave the anti rally folk something to whinge about. And something to distract from the truth.
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24-08-2010, 04:18 PM
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Interestingly, an investigation by the police indicated there was no evidence of rock throwing at the cars. I thought there were two cars with smashed windows? (page 7)
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I have incar of us on the Ctek stage approaching a 6th gear bend through a cutting which shows a punter up on the bank aiming and throwing a rock at our oncoming car - it bounces off the bonnet scoop.
Steve Shepheard's rear windscreen was smashed by a rock thrower on the Sunday morning
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24-08-2010, 06:52 PM
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Sunday morning's incident with Steve was by a drunk local who had already had an altercation from the night before in Casino, being drunk and disorderly. So it is not really related to the rally protesters.
Regardless of if a rock was thrown or not, they admitted to placing rocks and logs onto the road as a barrier, not realising that this was still liable for the same 'attempted manslaughter' charge as if they had thrown a rock. They then went quiet and evidence was hard to pin down on everyone involved.
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24-08-2010, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Trex rally
I have incar of us on the Ctek stage approaching a 6th gear bend through a cutting which shows a punter up on the bank aiming and throwing a rock at our oncoming car - it bounces off the bonnet scoop.
Steve Shepheard's rear windscreen was smashed by a rock thrower on the Sunday morning
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You have to have
A) 3rd party evidence ( Like the video) or someone outside the car as a witness
b) an "Injury" .. so physical damage on the car that can be shown to be from the rock...
Anyway... If the rock incident was overlooked ( It will now...) then the locals werent that against the rally were they, Just one big misunderstanding!!!
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24-08-2010, 07:17 PM
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I have incar of us on the Ctek stage approaching a 6th gear bend through a cutting which shows a punter up on the bank aiming and throwing a rock at our oncoming car - it bounces off the bonnet scoop.
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Was this vision provided to Police to assist with thier enquires??
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25-08-2010, 11:35 PM
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My god... Really, no one can be that stupid! Then again, after seeing some of them standing on the side of Kyogle Rd I might be wrong...
Seriously, how long ago was that thing with Lewis? I'd forgotten about it already.
I couldn't be bothered anymore. They're just digging themselves into a deeper hole, everybody knows they are full of **** and every comment that comes out of their mouths makes them sound even dumber and less credible.
Nobody is going to change their minds, they are whinging, hypocritical, uneducated morons and nothing is gonna change that, sad as it is.
Personally I reckon the best thing RRA could do is just forget about the Byrill Creek stage and run the other stages in the region, and try to work with the police to get protestors away from the rally stages like they did last time.
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26-08-2010, 02:24 PM
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Missed this item.
Protesters slam repco rally review | Northern Rivers News | Local News in Northern Rivers | Northern Star
Most people couldn't be bothered wasting a second of time on it, as they know it will be back and that's that.
Some are well educated, but just lack any education in terms of rallying. They imagine the facts, and then go on to misinform everyone around them. I figure that if they are the only ones on the stage, then people can only be misinformed?
Maybe they should forget about it, but dropping a stage due to a few who have proven they will use any tactics to upset the event just says go ahead and ruin the whole event to me. If someone acts illegally, and we say ok then we'll just move on seeing as you are going to sabotage our event then you send the wrong message.
Byrrill Creek is portrayed as a fragile ecosystem, unique and environmentally sensitive. This paints the wrong picture, as it has been marked as the regions next water source since the 70's. Council has bough up farmland, and properties to build a giant dam here, why? Because it's FARMLAND.
The locals have shifted their attention to the dam since September 2009, and it was decided to go with another option for now. It was marked as second preference, behind the cheaper option of extending the nearby clarryhall dam wall.
The indepenent review uses a very bad photo that displays a causeway while discussing avoiding areas that are arguably pristine environments. Easy to call this a pristine environment from this barely visible photo (from report)
But viewing my photo from several weeks before the rally, it appears that the "pristine" waterway is heavy surrounded by camphaloral trees!
Not sure if this is like giving a carrot to a rabbit and hoping it doesn't come back, but it appears very short sighted to me. Why b&^*crap people, this is an insult to our intelligence.
Nothing pristine about Byrrill Creek, place has been cleared many moons ago, and taking it off the rally route sends a loud and clear message. Endanger peoples lives and you get what you want.. very dangerous message indeed.
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27-08-2010, 12:44 AM
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taking it off the rally route sends a loud and clear message. Endanger peoples lives and you get what you want.. very dangerous message indeed.
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Good point... I didn't see it that way.
I was thinking along the lines of live and let live... But yes, I can see why you wouldn't want to let them have that concession. Being the raving lunatics they are, they'd be running around saying that it's a great victory for them (as they were when the stage was cancelled due to the boulders on the road. I was there when a few of them were carrying on about their 'victory', so they cannot say that claim is bull****.
The best thing they could do is put riot police along every stage, complete with tasers, batons and shields... When I was doing Mooball finish I had the job of control security - a bus full of protesters (they were all very obviously hippies too, I wish they would stop denying it  ) drove past yelling at us (couldn't understand what they said), and more had pulled up in cars and were starting to group up - I was the only official there, on the side of the main road thinking "Oh ****, here we go..."
Literally 20 seconds later the police chopper went overhead and another 60sec later two trucks full of riot police showed up... Wouldn't have even been 2 minutes later before there was not a protester in sight.
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27-08-2010, 01:10 AM
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Either way I give up, the locals are going to make the locals life hell for many moons to come. It's a shame, because some really good people live in these parts, and everyone suffers due to the actions of a few.
Teens use the road as a race track, so what ever. Byrrill Creek will stay as it has always been, and they can claim whatever victory they think they have. Life will never be the same for the minority that make sure nothing happens to their little paradise, they have to life there after all.
I doubt the police, rally organisers or anyone else wants to put up with that crap. So lets leave the rally driving for local hoons and get on with the other stages.
I'm sure they will find themselves in deep water if they try anything on this time round, as the locals now realise the police aren't up to the task.
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27-08-2010, 11:24 AM
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Was this vision provided to Police to assist with thier enquires??
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No because I didn't notice it at the time - a mate who borrowed my incar noticed it a month or so ago.
Here's the stage. You see a bloke on the bank at about 4.14. Whether it was him or someone else up there I don't know but at about 4.18 you see a rock hit the bonnet scoop and bounce off. It can't possibly have been thrown up by the car and it clearly comes from above and to the right.
Unfortunately the footage also shows the calmest co-driver and an exhausted driver after 3 days
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