colo khancross 10-8-08

[red pulsar guy]

Hey guys!
See you grabbed some of my pics from scott!

I'll upload the rest when i get them off my camera, got some other good ones too!

Not many though as i was too busy co driving the red pulsar!
(hahaha, just saw that pic of our car on the back track over the jump,
glad it wasn't me driving, could do with abit more air pressure next time i think!)

Catch ya's at the next event!

Mitch B.

[Sharper19]

Yes the Sigma driver Matt is still in hospital. He has a fractured vertibrey and will have a back brace with a full body cast on for the next 3 months.

We all hope he has a speedy recovery and gets well soon.

[hev]

I keep telling myself that I don't care about results ( - Repeat after me: I don't care about results, I don't care about results, I don't care about results, etc) however, I am intrigued about the times (especially cos Rhys only beat me by a second on one of the tests) so... has anyone seen/got any?

Just noticed Sharper's post... that's awful. That "motorsport is dangerous" thing always sucks when it happens...

[moxo]

Yeah I was a little quicker than Chris Harper, but I made a lot more mistakes, including tagging a tree! And getting lost on the dirt circuit (took some doing, but I managed.)

Thanks Scott for:

1 running a great event (with Rick Ferruglio) and
2 letting me finish off your car.

You see, when Scott tried to bolt the front bumper back on, the chassis rail broke. He denies he was using a long bar on the spanner.

Can we get a few hundred tons of gravel for sandy bits? That, or mix in some lime with it and wait for rain...

Colo, where Sigmas and Pulsars go to die. And Commodores and Sunnys, for that matter.




Moxo (back's fine - legs hurt - go figure)

[red pulsar guy]

Hey All,
Here are some of the pics i grabbed from the day,
Not many, but i took what i could whilst waiting for part 2 of the team to finish his laps.

I'll upload more when i get abit more time.

See ya's!

Mitch

NVCC "Powerslide" Editor

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2788991...7606724401029/

[Graham Wallis]

Originally Posted by hev

He was treated by the onsite medico, given drugs, told not to drink and recommended that he attended a medical centre at minimum. When I spoke to him he was having trouble holding a conversation with me... how much of that was breathing difficulties and how much was how non-compus he was at the time, I don't know.

The car is also completely dead, having landed in trees and lunched the engine in some manner - hole in sump?? (no oil in an engine is never a good thing).

Sadly, it shows a level of immaturity - considering that my understanding is that he already had a bad back before the event started*, committed himself to the jump fully knowing that he wasn't going to make it* and kept going because he told someone he was going to do it*. Sometimes you wish you could save people from themselves, but it's not possible.

* Allegedly.

I'm a bit aghast at what passes for Khanacross in NSW, this is not meant to be a speed event and in fact a 90 degree bend ior stop start garage s required every 100 metres by the regulations. Even if this jump was less than 100m after a low speed corner I would have thought it inappropriate for a non speed event.
In Victoria we run Autocross which IS a speed event and requires a licensed track.
Khanacross was originally meant to be an extended motorkhana test, it now seems to be a way of getting around regulations and running special stages without safety equipment and appropriate licences.
Graham

[oldmanbluebird]

Originally Posted by Graham Wallis

I'm a bit aghast at what passes for Khanacross in NSW, this is not meant to be a speed event and in fact a 90 degree bend ior stop start garage s required every 100 metres by the regulations. Even if this jump was less than 100m after a low speed corner I would have thought it inappropriate for a non speed event.
In Victoria we run Autocross which IS a speed event and requires a licensed track.
Khanacross was originally meant to be an extended motorkhana test, it now seems to be a way of getting around regulations and running special stages without safety equipment and appropriate licences.
Graham

autocross would be very funtastic, but we have no such thing that I know off.
Oran Park did have a track but the fun police wanted to build houses on it, so they dropped the licence for it.
I know of one track has tried for a track licence but you need 5 square kilometers of open flat mowed land before they would even start thinking about it, A tree would no no
And as for the speed thing, give me a break, I have 200 ponies, getting up to speed in 100 metres is not a problem what about the 4wd turbo cars do you think they have trouble getting up to speed?, the problem was as far as I can see was the driver, 50 other drivers in all types of cars and driving skills managed to have a fun trouble free day.
A hump or jump in the track is no different to a large tree on the edge of the track, or a large pot hole, do you drive into the tree? no, you slow down so you don't hit it, do you drive a warp speed over a jump???????????
I don't want you to take this as a personal attack at you so please don't be offended.
This event as far as I was concerned was fantastic, I have no real complaints apart from the late start, nine events nearly 1.5 kms long each, bring it on.
The real issue might be why we don't have anything between a khanacross and a rallysprint, ( CAMS take a hint)
also give a little bit of leway ( spelling?) as that car club has just taken over control of the grounds and may need to modify a few parts of the track
I feel better now I've had my bitch session

[oldmanbluebird]

Hey Graham
can I come to Victoria for a Autocross?

[ropie]

Nabiac near Taree includes an autocross track, 1 km length where my Evo 4 gets to 150kmh on the straight, proper track with run offs etc.

I must say that the reports of this khanacross are unlike any khanacross I've been at or competed in, some clubs run events where you can get up a bit of speed, but fast enough to wreck cars & bust people's backs?

[Graham Wallis]

Originally Posted by oldmanbluebird

autocross would be very funtastic, but we have no such thing that I know off.
Oran Park did have a track but the fun police wanted to build houses on it, so they dropped the licence for it.
I know of one track has tried for a track licence but you need 5 square kilometers of open flat mowed land before they would even start thinking about it, A tree would no no
And as for the speed thing, give me a break, I have 200 ponies, getting up to speed in 100 metres is not a problem what about the 4wd turbo cars do you think they have trouble getting up to speed?, the problem was as far as I can see was the driver, 50 other drivers in all types of cars and driving skills managed to have a fun trouble free day.
A hump or jump in the track is no different to a large tree on the edge of the track, or a large pot hole, do you drive into the tree? no, you slow down so you don't hit it, do you drive a warp speed over a jump???????????
I don't want you to take this as a personal attack at you so please don't be offended.
This event as far as I was concerned was fantastic, I have no real complaints apart from the late start, nine events nearly 1.5 kms long each, bring it on.
The real issue might be why we don't have anything between a khanacross and a rallysprint, ( CAMS take a hint)
also give a little bit of leway ( spelling?) as that car club has just taken over control of the grounds and may need to modify a few parts of the track
I feel better now I've had my bitch session

Sorry If I was a bit blunt in my comments but our ever tightening restrictions on what we can do is usually the result of doing things wrong in the past.
The distance between slow corners (defined as 90 degrees within a 10 metre square) was reduced to 100 meters two years ago because of people pushing (and exceeding) the limits of the regulations.
Sure, Khanacrosses are run in Victoria and I'm sure a lot these push the limits of the regulations but Autocross seems to be more common here.
Graham

[red pulsar guy]

Originally Posted by ropie

but fast enough to wreck cars & bust people's backs?

I see your point, but you don't have to be going fast to wreck a car or hurt your back. In my 1st Khanacross ever, it happened to be at colo and i went into a bunch of tree's on a relativly slow corner that was deeply rutted with sand of all things haha, although it was slow, it was still enough to smash the front of the car in and pull guards off,
As far as iv'e been told CAMS is also looking at opening up Khanacross regulations because of AASA anyway, so the future should be interesting with what rules stay and which ones go... we wil have to wait and see if this is true or not though.

All of the cautions (jumps/potholes/heavy ruts or wash aways) on the tracks for the day were also marked this time with a sign (which i made) and iv'e never seen that at colo before, the jump matt went off on also had one of these signs. This was another idea of Rick Feruglio's because he had people's safety in mind and interest.

I know im abit biased because im a member of NVCC who run the day, and so was matt who had the accident, but as far as im concerned , the entire day was run within cams regulations and the supp regs supplied to them that got approved....

I really enjoyed the day, the tracks were great, the competition was fun and at the end of the day the only problem uncounted was a very unfortunate off which may not of ended good.

I look forward to running with all you cool cats again at the next khanacross interclub challenge round!

[red pulsar guy]

To The Competitor,

Thank you so much for competing in the NVCC Colo SupaKhana on the 10th August, 2008.
I would especially like to thank all the officials who helped out on the day as without these people the event could not have been run.

The winners on the day were:
FTD: Aron Lett
Class B: Phil Henderson
Class C: Robert Beckwith
Class D: Rob Parsonage
Class E: Brent Money
Ladies: Heather Smith
Juniors: Sean Leahey

Please Note: Our next Colo Event on the 28th September, 2008 has been postponed due to poor track conditions.
Keep an eye on our website www.nvcc.com.au for more news on our upcoming events.

Thanks Again!
Adriana Pallister
(Event Secretary)

*** Congrats to everyone who entered!
Full rusults should be e-mailed to everyone who gave their e-mails shortly.

[Dave Kelly]

My apologies for slightly hi-jacking the original purpose of this thread, however in seeing the photos from the NVSCC event at Colo it has made all get a little dewy eyed and nostalgic for a place that was such a significant part of my world in those influential years of my mid to late teens to early twenties... (and so many weekends spent there helping George Sosimenko and others from the DDC/NDDC to build roads, grade motorkhana grounds, build sheds, picnic tables, dunnies, oh and grading more roads!!!

I also wanted to show (albeit a little grainily from the scan of a rather tatty old print) that getting some air (and plenty of it!) at Colo is nothing new (see attached pic below)

The attached photo was taken I reckon in about 1981 and shows some bloke by the name of Dave Kelly wearing the de rigeur piece of rally safety attire for the time, (the terry toweling hat!) and seeing just how far a Datsun would fly.

I reckon I did this yump (off the end of Roller Coaster Road) probably 40 or 50 times in that old datto (over a period of about a year or so).. and (he says hoping the bloke I sold that car to in 1982 isn't reading this) yes, that 1600 did develop just a slight little cracking problem in the body around C pillar .. oops!

..and for those that are interested in a bit of history, this same car (with moi driving) was the first car to ever compete on the Colo Park Dirt circuit (being car 1 for the first event held there ... again around 1981(ish).. (although I do have better records of that first event somewhere in my old rally etc files.. and I'll try and dig them out over the next few days and will then be able to pinpoint the date and lap record time etc.. However from recollection (after more than 25 years!) I think it might have been Mick Myers who won that first ever Dirt Circuit event).

Anyway, again my apologies for the small hi-jack... resume normal service now... and return to 2008!

Cheers

David

[red pulsar guy]

Wow!
That's so awesome, man.. i have so much respect for you guys who did all the initial work
A few of us nvcc guys have been up there working on the dirt circuit as of late to restore it and i know how much of a pain in the arse that can be let alone building it all from scratch!

The infrastructure there is awesome and the whole place simply rocks! With out guys like you we most likely wouldn't have a place to race...
Simply awesome

Haha, go the safety equipment! Im guessing you didn't have a cams official scrutineer your car either?
Cams would ave had a field day! haha

My dads got a identical 1600 that he races, i wonder if it's his? hehe.
Do you have any other pics of colo? it would be cool to see what it has been like from the beginning... i'd love to know more of the history of the place!

Cheers,

[crowleyaj]

Apologies for the delay in getting these out, been a bit sidetracked with work and helping get a car ready for Batemans. See attached results after Round 3 at Colo.