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Old 18-04-2010, 06:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok the results are available but the reports have yet to flow. What happened to Brian & Jimmy so close to the finish.

A top drive by the two mad irishmen. Well done Charlie & co.

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I'm beginning to think that the RX2 has a serious personality disorder. Three attempts at RoL, and three DNFs.
At least this time we completed all the stages (but we were out of late time).

Leading up to the event, I sent the front guard away to be straightened after the suspension failure last year at RoL. When I went to pick up the guard, I realised that I had given the painter the wrong paint (Dynamic White instead of Super White). I found cracks in the top rails. Welding up the cracks caused a fire in the cabin . After I pieced everything back together (last Sunday afternoon), a check over everything revealed that the fandangle Spal thermofan had three broken blades. Managed to break a bolt while fitting the replacement fan , and the list goes on.

On the morning of the event, I put the car on the trailer, then found that the fuel pressure regulator had completely failed, pouring fuel out all over the place (it was fine on Thursday night!!!). It turns out that any sort of fuel pressure reg for a carby car is fairly uncommon. We finally found one at Auto One in Bathurst and sent one of the crew off to pick it up. Tim returned just in time for us to fit the new reg while we were waiting to start.

It was all pretty uneventful for the first few stages, except for the same variable brake pedal issues (that I thought we had solved ).

On the second pass of Ridge Rd, a roo decided to try and crash tackle the car as we were going past at the top end of 3rd gear. Fortunately he hit us just behind the right front wheel, so no major damage (to us).

Had a great battle going with Winks/Hodgkin and Duthrie/Hanns for most of the day. It was good to be right behind Russ on the road, so we could keep an eye on their times. I think we were up by about 15 seconds at most through the afternoon.

We started getting some gearbox problems through the afternoon, with it jamming in 4th a few times. Fearing that it would permanently jam in 4th, I held 3rd as much as I could. Unfortunately, 3rd decided it didn't want to play the game with a few stages to go, but 4th came back for another go (WTF??).

Heading into the start control for stage 9, we found that we had lost all the brake fluid, so headed back to service to fix whatever had caused the fluid loss (turns out it was another problem with the banjo fitting into the rear caliper ). We got back to the start of stage 9, but we weren't sure whether we were still within late time or not.
We were told we were on the road behind Julie and Mat. After some quick calculations, Mat suggested to the controllies that we should go ahead of them for safety reasons. Thanks again Julie and Mat. I would have been quite happy to stay behind you for Summit and Gum Valley, with a rethink going into Ridge Rd.

The reshuffle at Stage 9 start had Butch a bit concerned, and they arranged for us to slot in ahead of them going into Gum Valley (thanks to you guys as well).

Had we been within late time, we would have been 13th (I think), just behind Russ/Stephen and ahead of Duthrie/Hanns by a few seconds. Russ must have had a big go in the last pass of Ridge Rd, the time was pretty amazing. Without 3rd gear, we had no chance of keeping up.

There's a fairly long list of things to be done now. Top of the list is a new gearbox, probably new rear brakes (again), re-think the diff housing and axle bearings, straighten the front guard (again), new nav's seat, fix lots of holes in the floor and wheel arches, sort out the steering geometry (somehow between RdF and last week we have ended up with a 2 degree castor variation), and lots of little things. Oh, and send it for some therapy sessions to adjust it's attitude towards RoL.

Thanks to:
Ric, Phil, Brett, Bean and everyone else who put in the hard yards to make the event happen.
All the other officials who sacrificed their day(s) to let us have fun in the forest.
Mum, Bob, Ken and Tim for servicing.
Jo for calling the notes and being very patient with my stress levels over the last couple of weeks.
Ken (again) at Macquarie Rd Auto Repairs for letting me hijack the hoist for a few hours last Thursday, as well as support and advice whenever it's needed.

If anyone has any photos or video of Car 21, please let me know.


I'm thinking that there's an issue with the rallytiming results for car 38 on SS6. 3 sec/km faster on their first pass on Gum valley than their second pass, and lots faster than any other stage??

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I believe Bryan/Jimmy had a Hub/Wheel part company in Stage 11



Also early in the day one of the cars managed to loose the complete exhaust.

We as recovery were sent in to retrieve it.
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I believe Bryan/Jimmy had a Hub/Wheel part company in Stage 11



Also early in the day one of the cars managed to loose the complete exhaust.

We as recovery were sent in to retrieve it.

It's like a hunting trophy. Did you pick up that bumper bar as well? Keep it up, you could have a whole car.

We had a spin and a retirement at our spectator point / road closure. Had a good yack with John Buckley. Been ages since I went to a rally - note to self - do it more. A bit like a school reunion - all the old mates there.

I have photos of everyone or very nearly everyone who got to stage 6.

I should set up some way of people buying them from a website, but for now, email me at bruce.moxon@cgu.com.au and I can send you them (competitors only).



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We finished 5th. Were 4th after a few stages- first 2 were v.slippery. Stage 3 we ran strong. Stage 5 we broke a front left control arm about 1/2 way in. Didn't hit anything, just rough section where Amsag had run the week previous and the arm broke- probably fatigued. Had to crawl back to service.

Had a spare and a great service crew so they got the job done. Big thanks to Longy, Tim, Ryan, Shane and Greg for keeping us in the event.

After that tried to climb back up the leader board but was hampered by the 2min gap (some had 4) and just drove into dust. Bryan and Jimmy would have had a similar issue.

Happy with the car. Obviously we need to find some more speed, especially in faster sweeping corners but I've got some good people around me to help.

It was a good event. Ric and his team did a good job and there was a very casual feel to it all. the only complaint I heard was the roughness of some of the roads, but to be fair the roads were hurt by Amsag the week previous.

I've posted a 3min clip. First time doing this type of thing- it's a bit blurry but I'm playing around with it all now. Thanks to Longy for putting his incar in the VR4. I'll try to add a few more.

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Also early in the day one of the cars managed to loose the complete exhaust.

We as recovery were sent in to retrieve it.
Yeah sort of...We had hit a rock in Stage 10 on the front right and it fractured a brake line and we had no brakes in Stage 10 for the last couple of Ks. We got to Service and Hugh, Matt and Chris did a great job in changing it and we managed to get to the TC at the start of SS11 the last stage right into and I mean right into our due minute! Great work!! However about 3k into the last stage we thought we had a flat, we drove on for about a km then some horrendous noises and then stopped. The arm connecting to the Hub had sheared and the wheel had been flapping around and eventualy broke the drive shaft and so there we sat. Were having a ding dong battle for third with Matt Amos and Charlie Drake...but sadly to no avail...
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I'm thinking that there's an issue with the rallytiming results for car 38 on SS6. 3 sec/km faster on their first pass on Gum valley than their second pass, and lots faster than any other stage??
There's been known to be timing errors on that stage in the past.
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the old teat puller is back for another year and was under instructions to take it a bit easy owing to a host of changes made over the break. everything was basically on track for the boys with the old bloke continually asking permission to have a big go. Looks like a stone strike damaged a rear shaft and following an agressive start it broke near the diff. The decision was to park it rather than have it bang around underneath and chip the new paint.


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We also broke a rim somewhere on either Summit 1 or Gum Valley 1. We were trying tubeless on the rear, and this was still holding air.
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Unless you were there and saw it for yourself, what are you going to add to the discussion? Aside from uncertainty and speculation? But that's just my opinion. (EDIT: refer to 'serious incident' thread in main area for an explanation what happened).

I was on SS3/7/11 spectator point with Mikey, Hayley and Sam. We had a good time, long day seperated by a few little cook ups. During the daylight running I think there would have been close to 100 people there, so a good effort. Just a few long day when Sam and I had to be up and in the Sydney CBD by 6am for a triathlon!

Mitchell looked to be going real hard and the only one to have the brake rotors glowing on the night stages. David was impressive as always in the Porsche, that thing would have to be the quickest car there in a straight line. Other standout was Casmiri, absolutley flying! The impressive bit was hearing it leave the spectator point and he was not backing off over the next few corners where most other people were. Good effort.
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With all due respect, Davee, I wasn't there, that is why I asked the question.
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I doubt any discussion on here could alter the course of justice, nor should it.
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