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15-08-2010, 07:21 PM
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Look what I found
This is sitting in a yard beside my Mk2 Escort.
Apparently it was run in some of the really early AMSAG events.
Does anyone remember it?
It will be one of my future restorations after I finish a couple of Valiant Pacers and Chargers for the guy I got my Escorts from.
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15-08-2010, 09:58 PM
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I happened to drive past where those photos were taken yesterday.
Actually I drive past that spot pretty regularly and until I saw the photo here never gave it any more thought.
I grew up there.
Would have been a nice trip from Nelsons Bay.
Nick
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15-08-2010, 10:11 PM
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It will be one of my future restorations .......
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As a rally car? (You know you want to  )
What would a GC coupe have looked like if the Mitsubishi factory team had rallied it? Think of the works LA Lancer colours/design, then look at the GC (with its coke-bottle rear guards) then .......
What would a GC coupe have looked like if the Datsun factory team had rallied it? Seriously! At least one pair of driving lights fitted into the grille, except that the Galant has space for building in Super Oscars rather than those cheap Datsun landing lights
Build the car that Mitsubishi should have, but didn't.
Now, as for the flares they should have fitted ............... (look at LegEnd's 240K)
Bugger it! Build the car that Boreham might have: 5-link rear end, fuel tank over the rear axle, Lancer front end, rack-and-pinion steering ........
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15-08-2010, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bob moore
As a rally car? (You know you want to  )
What would a GC coupe have looked like if the Mitsubishi factory team had rallied it?
Bugger it! Build the car that Boreham might have: 5-link rear end, fuel tank over the rear axle, Lancer front end, rack-and-pinion steering ........
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4g63 n/a ,murray flex, GTO box, etc etc
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15-08-2010, 10:48 PM
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16-08-2010, 01:22 AM
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M'learned friend Cary extends the concept, to utilise the current day freedoms of PRC.
However, I'd argue that he extends it too far  .
My original premise was "What would a GC coupe have looked like if the Mitsubishi factory team had rallied it?" Implicitly, this means if they had rallied it in its era (i.e. 1976-78), with all that implies about period technology.
So Bilsteins would be OK, but Murrayflex (with canisters) a step too far. Likewise, Super Oscars OK, but not with HID conversions. Webers would be OK (actually essential), but EFI would be unacceptable.
Go back to 1974. Imagine you're Kenjiro Shinozuka, downing a few sakes in the competitions department. You're tossing around the Ralliart name, but you're not sure whether it'll catch on. You've got a telegram from Andrew Cowan, telling you it was nice to win the Southern Cross, but that it was bloody hard work being chucked around in that little Lancer. Any chance of something more comfortable (i.e. slightly larger) next year?
Coincidentally, you got a very similar telegram from Joginder Singh earlier in the year, in relation to the Safari rally.
So you sit down with the Ford Escort Rally Preparation Manual in one hand, and the 97-page Escort homologation papers in the other. What do you decide to do with the Galant coupe?
OK, it's all imagination. But there's some very cool gear being created in the UK historic/classic/geriatric movement at the moment, because guys have let their imaginations off the leash and created "70s era" cars that never existed, but look like they might have.
There's no point in turning a GC coupe into an all-singing, all-dancing PRC 2010-mobile, because it still won't win anything. And my demented suggestion is bound to offend the Classic Rally Car guys, because it goes off their reservation (freedom of front suspension, steering, etc).
But the only serious game in town is the Alpine, which has a category of "Other Rally Vehicles". And a sense of humour.
You just know you want to do it ...................
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16-08-2010, 01:59 AM
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I was actually thinking ( yep thats right its only thinking  ) murray flex sans cannister,and 48 or 50 webbers no efi
pfft hysterics there isn't a real one amongst em !!!!
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16-08-2010, 09:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bob moore
My original premise was "What would a GC coupe have looked like if the Mitsubishi factory team had rallied it?" Implicitly, this means if they had rallied it in its era (i.e. 1976-78), with all that implies about period technology.
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You mean something like what Scott Harvey did to win the USA SCCA championship in 1975 ? Team Harco Motorsports
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16-08-2010, 10:31 AM
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You mean something like what Scott Harvey did to win the USA SCCA championship in 1975 ?
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I'm disappointed in you, Trees m'lad, disappointed.
I'd have expected you to produce the links to the secret Mitsubishi early-forerunner-of-Group-S cars.
I liked it better when you were a Volvo-nerd
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16-08-2010, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by bob moore
Bugger it! Build the car that Boreham might have: 5-link rear end, fuel tank over the rear axle, Lancer front end, rack-and-pinion steering ........
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Ah Mr Moore... a man after my own heart...
Look at our 1974 GC 2 Door Hardtop in my avatar...
2.6Ltr, twin 45mm sidedraft Webbers, Scorpion front end, new 5 link rear end with Hilux welded diff (used to have Ralliart LSD until we crashed it at Eden) and Bilsteins all round, fuel tank in the boot over the rear axle.
We finished 2nd in the AMSAG Classic Championship last year....
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16-08-2010, 11:17 AM
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Look at our 1974 GC 2 Door Hardtop in my avatar...
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I think I might have been admiring your car    recently, at Raymond Terrace at the start of the Night Owl.
A fine device. Scorpion front end, eh? We were wondering what it might have been.
I've always thought the GC/GD hardtop had great potential as a fun car, because its higher roofline (than a Celica/RX7/AE86) allows a gentleman  to sit upright without scraping his helmet on the roof.
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16-08-2010, 02:20 PM
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AS soon as I saw this I thought of Mark and Mick with their Galant, seems mick noticed it earlier, wonder how much harder Mark might go if he knew he had a spare shell?
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16-08-2010, 04:10 PM
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I think I might have been admiring your car    recently, at Raymond Terrace at the start of the Night Owl.
A fine device. Scorpion front end, eh? We were wondering what it might have been.
I've always thought the GC/GD hardtop had great potential as a fun car, because its higher roofline (than a Celica/RX7/AE86) allows a gentleman  to sit upright without scraping his helmet on the roof.
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That would be the one Bob...
But as for space, I haven't sat in an AE86 or RX7, but i can tell you there still ain't that much room in the Galant, Mark isn't a really tall guy but even with the seat mounted to the floor he doesn't have much head room.
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AS soon as I saw this I thought of Mark and Mick with their Galant, seems mick noticed it earlier, wonder how much harder Mark might go if he knew he had a spare shell?
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We already have a contingency plan incase the worst happens.... two starions sitting in the garage
Our plan is to slowly build up the Starion to eventually replace the Galant, but if worst comes to worst and we bin the Galant we won't bother with rebuilding/reshelling it... will move on to the Starion.
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16-08-2010, 05:27 PM
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You mean something like what Scott Harvey did to win the USA SCCA championship in 1975 ? Team Harco Motorsports

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this was the phrase I liked best on that page...
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16-08-2010, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bob moore
I've always thought the GC/GD hardtop had great potential as a fun car
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It would however still be a GC/GD ... & therefore fugly  compared to the earlier Galant 16L coupe (seen here in "Dodge Colt GT" form) ...
.... which is a thing of beauty which I would kill for (except they were never released here  )
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